Los Angeles Times – For decades, the nation’s pornographic film industry found a happy, largely accepting home in Los Angeles.
Producers operated lucrative businesses in anonymous office parks in the San Fernando Valley. Available in the city were a steady supply of actors and film production talent as well as opulent mansions that often served as theatrical backdrops. By one estimate, at least 5% of on-location shoots were for adult films.
But this coexistence has been suddenly shaken by sweeping health regulations that, starting March 5, will require porn performers to wear condoms while on location.
The landmark law marks a rare attempt to regulate how films are made, threatening an industry that has been a source of millions of dollars in revenue. AIDS activists are gathering signatures for a countywide ballot measure that would extend the ban to dozens of additional communities.
The industry, however, is fighting back. Leaders say they are considering plans to fight back either in court or by moving filming out of town. (Y)
It’s a debate that pits the desire to protect the health of porn actors against the freedom to make films that audiences want to see.
The Los Angeles City Council acted earlier this year after a series of incidents in which adult film productions were suspended amid concerns that HIV had been transmitted among performers. Despite the health risks of having unprotected sex on movie sets, the industry has strongly opposed a condom requirement, saying that monthly testing already safeguards performers and that customers won’t pay to see such films.
“It’s certainly a fascinating conundrum,” said Jason E. Squire, a USC professor of cinematic arts. “You want all performers, whatever they do, to be safe. That transcends content. I don’t know what the proper solution is.”
AIDS activists say that the fight over condoms is about protecting performers’ health and opposing the promotion of unsafe sex.
“The fact that porn sends out a message that the only type of sex that’s hot is unsafe … we think that’s detrimental,” said Michael Weinstein, president of the Los Angeles-based AIDS Healthcare Foundation.
The Los Angeles law was the result of months of aggressive lobbying by Weinstein and other AIDS activists, who have long called on the government to step in and make the porn workplace safer. The council approved the law only after activists pressured it by gathering enough signatures to ask voters to decide the issue at the ballot box. The industry has been forced to suspend production several times amid reports that adult performers contracted HIV. One was Derrick Burts, who tested HIV-positive in 2010 and said clinic staff told him he was infected by a fellow performer.
“It’s a broken system that they have in place,” said Burts, who backs mandatory condoms. “What performer wouldn’t want to feel more safe on a work set?”
Porn industry representatives say the law is unnecessary because they regularly test actors for HIV. They maintain that Burts was not infected on the job, and that they haven’t had a confirmed work-related HIV case since 2004. When a performer turned up HIV-positive in another state in 2011, companies here voluntarily halted production until others could get tested.
Steven A. Hirsch of Vivid Entertainment said his company’s performers are allowed to use condoms if they want — but most don’t.
Filmmakers tried requiring condoms on their own in the late 1990s after an HIV scare, but sales began suffering.
“The viewers out there don’t want to see movies with condoms,” Hirsch said.
Diane Duke of the adult film lobby group Free Speech Coalition said performers should have the right to have sex as they wish. She compared the issue to boxers who fight for entertainment, even though they risk injury.
“The goal of that is to knock someone out — pound them in the head until you knock someone out,” Duke said.
“This is the first step of government overreach into the way we make movies,” Duke said. “It’s clearly the government interfering where it really doesn’t belong.… Because our industry deals with sex … we’re vulnerable and easy to attack.”
This is an industry that deals in people getting f**ked. And they say the government doesn’t belong. What the hell am i missing?
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diane duke?
i was expecting someone like diane goodhead to be their spokesperson.
That would work. It’d save me a lot of time commuting back and forth to work.
I hate that LA Traffic.
I didn’t want to be there When The Big One Hits.
well this blog just went gutter. Now I gatta clear history in the mourning too? thanx a helluvalot
I would imagine the government having their way with you (gerund phrase) is much different & less pleasurable than, say, Hedi Klum having her way with you.
That said, I trust people to self-regulate. And when they cannot, they should pay the price, whether their actions are deemed moral or immoral. It is much easier, cheaper and safer to moderate your own behaviors than to have government do it for you.
ObamaCare currently proposes to cut Medicare doctors’ reimbursement by 21% (the Doc Fix), add 24 million unpaying patients to the roles, determine whether your doctor is making the best decisions for you, asking you to pay for acts you consider immoral or unethical, and it’s going to do it all for far less money that the current circus is consuming.
If you believe that, then I suggest you belong in the Obama Camp. Perhaps you should be institutionalized, but there is a place in politics for you. Government already reaches into every aspect of our lives, so I’m not surprised they think they can modify behaviors in the porn industry as well.
And while I’m not condoning unethical or immoral behavior, when, exactly, are we supposed to start minding our own business? (L)
AIDS activists are in the same camp as Climate Change activists. AIDS is simply not a risk if you are a white heterosexual.
back around the turn of the last century, boilers were exploding in basements of buildings all over new york city and boston, etc., etc.
the reputable manufacturers of these boilers said, “we’ve got to do something about this or the government is”. so they got together and agreed upon a set of manufacturing standards and design parameters, and today we have the american society of mechanical engineers (ASME) design code.
texans, being what they are, have the texas railroad commission, because back then the only people who knew how to design boilers were the people building steam locomotives.
guess what?
the boilers in the basements of those buildings stopped exploding.
of course now we have the occasional pipeline explosion, that gets environmentalists all moist, and gives CNN something to beat the industry over the head with, and call for more government control over something else.
The Kosher designation indicates a butcher or slaughterhouse following the rules of Jewish meat preparation handed down over the centuries. Not one outfit, but actually 308 separate organizations that maintain the high standards of meat preparation for the high holy days. The animal must be killed with one slice to the throat, there cannot be any hair or blood on the blade, all preparation areas are washed with salt, etc.
The FDA is a huge government entity that is supposed to keep our food supply safe nationwide. Let’s ignore the peanut butter/samonella combos and the spinich and bad fruit for a moment and just concentrate on meat. How many thousands are poisoned each year by ‘FDA approved’ meats? How many die?
Want to guess how many people have died eating kosher meats?
None.
So look for the “K” on your packaged meats. It will cost more, but it beats living on life-support at the hospital for 3 months.
I trust people to self-regulate.
That’s where I reckon the whole T8 theory falls down. You’re anthropomorphizing!
AA -- Ok, I’m not following you. Anthropomorphic involves ascribing human characteristics to non-human subjects (think Bambi or Dumbo). People are perfectly capable of self-regulating and they usually have more success than the government entities that attempt it.
Or, like most socialists, are you assuming people cannot take care of themselves? If they can’t, then how can politicians take care of anyone else? Or are we to assume politicians are a special class of angels? Let history be the judge. (apologies to Tom Jefferson)
Kosher foods, Underwriters’ Laboratories, ASME, volunteer fire departments, they’d put any organized government entity to shame. People are driven by self-interest. No, they are not all smart, no, they are not all ‘certified’ or whatever, but I trust them more than I do government organizations. I do not worship politicians. I do not think they have all the answers. The total of their talent amounts to getting elected.
And if people fail, let them fail. C’est la vie.
The danger lies in fatal conceit, that one person or one group of geniuses can make decisions for everyone else. Every socialist falls to this hubris, the planned economy, the 5-year plan, the national strategic direction. It’s all bullshit. It didn’t work for the Soviets and it won’t work for Comrade Obama, either.
Then again, he could be the poster boy for Hubris. Maybe that should be his new one-word bumper sticker….
Ok, I’m not following you.
That’s just my little joke. You can’t assume that everyone is as talented and lucky as yourself. Hell, some could barely be described as human -- hence my joke. Its not fair to expect them to be able to ‘self-regulate’. What they need is leadership and guidance. They have already shown they can’t be trusted to vote for what is right. And how could they? They don’t possess even a speck of nobility.
And if people fail, let them fail. C’est la vie.
What if they are your simple-minded kith and kin? What if they become impoverished because rich smart Asian Overlords buy up all the businesses and give the work to their own people? C’est ls vie?
Also, planned economies have been known to work quite well -- Taiwan, Singapore, South Korea, China and NS Germany for example. Japan too.
The danger lies in fatal conceit, that one person or one group of geniuses can make decisions for everyone else.
You cannot really escape this. Small groups of people always set the trend. Right now a small percentage of the population sets the direction and personality of the culture. A single genius could be dangerous or highly fortuitous.
Planned economies require individuals to sacrifice their freedom for ‘the good of the people’. If a man cannot act in his own best interest, how ‘good’ will the result be for him? If you have no control over where your children go to school, which doctor you get to see, what neighborhood you can live in, how ‘good’ have you got it?
The end result should not be ‘make a pile of money’, the end result should be freedom. As William Penn said, if you deny a man his folly, you will find you have a nation of fools. That’s where we are NOW. Not where we’re going, where we are.
Japan working quite well? 23 years into stagflation? Yeah, gimme some of dat!!
A small percentage of the population fancies themselves to be trend setters, but they have no control over the masses, or language.
My simple-minded kith and kin live in an uninsured house for which they paid cash. If the home burns to the ground, it’s a tragedy. My wife also knows they won’t be living with us after that. If you want a new house, buy insurance. I’m not your insurance.
China was paralyzed by communism until they created Economic Zones in the south. Hong Kong was ‘planned’, but at one point the 60,000 expatriated Chinese in the south Pacific had a larger GDP than the mainland. Well the lesson wasn’t lost on the Forbidden City, they may be insular and xenophobic, but they’re not stupid. So they opened Pandora’s Box, released the capitalist genie and eventually China will no longer be an authoritarian totalitarian Marxist state. You cannot have Free Markets without freedom itself and there are already millions of Chinese on the mainland who differ only slightly from their cousins in Hong Kong. Freedom is messy, but it is worth the mess.
The difference between a libertarian and a socialist? Socialists basically do not trust people to act in their own best interests, while libertarians will allow people the freedom to fail. The innovation that drives industry is not governmental, it is not always organized and planned, but it is driven by the irrational mind with the freedom to change things. Socialism allows neither.
Look, you’re taking the argument to extremes. A bit of planning is not necessarily micro-managing everything.
A small percentage of the population fancies themselves to be trend setters, but they have no control over the masses, or language.
I don’t think that is true at all. Hollywood and pop stars have tremendous influence. Our culture has been radically re-shaped by the culture distorters.
Japan -- most definitely gimme some of dat:
Japan, Refutation of Neoliberalism
I honestly believe that Libertarian ideas are a major menace to the development of the West. They blithely exclaim, “C’est la vie” as their people march to the trailer park when they had the potential to march on Mars and beyond.
Wow, Japan’s growing at 2%/year? Shouldn’t we get out of its way? Here comes the Japanese steamroller!
I know it’s possible to find articles touting 1 or 2% growth out there, and yes, 1 or 2% is better than contraction, which is what the Japanese had for years -- but I’m not seeing the glowing argument for socialist planning.
Libertarianism IS the West. It’s the reason Dallas doesn’t look like Mogadishu, it’s the reason people want to immigrate here and very few immigrate to that listing of socialist utopias you mentioned earlier. You can say that there will still be poor, but that’s not an indictment of the process, it merely indicates that benefits are keyed to the effort and resources you devote to your enterprise. Why should my sister-in-law, who has spent most her life on her ass, make as much as I can? Doesn’t even make sense. In a country where the sky is the limit and personal freedom abounds, what in God’s heaven makes you think we’re all going to end up with exactly the same outcome?
Of course there’s income disparity, but the poor in this country beat the pants off their counterparts, even in Europe. The majority of poor in this country have access to cell phones, TVs, cars, indoor plumbing, health care and education.
We LANDED on the moon already. China might be in the next decade, but this country is far ahead of the rest due to our people and our freedom. The opportunities are there, but no one’s forced to take them. And if an individual chooses not to take them, that’s their business. I’m free to march to the trailer park as well. Hell, right now I’m unemployed. But I don’t do it, and if you don’t know why, I can’t help you.
if i may nit-pik, split hairs, and disagree.
i understand what you are saying but i think there is more to it. the difference between mainlanders and hong kongers. there is a difference that michael jordan will soon find out. he is suing a chinese company in a chinese court. can you say, the game is rigged? if this were taking place in a court in hong kong, based on english common law, things would be substantially different. what i may be saying poorly, is there is more to freedom than simple geography and physical appearance. and while freedom may be messy, there is an order to the messyness. the acceptance of the rule of law. in this context, i believe that the mainlanders and hong kongers are substantially different.
louielouie, I’m not disagreeing with you. The transformation of the mainland is not complete, at the core the leadership is still commie, there’s no getting around that. But now that they’ve allowed a subset of their population to experience economic freedom, those folks won’t be coming back. They have cracked the door and the Free Market will do the rest.
It may take a complete generation, in the meantime, yes, they will continue to flaunt international laws on copyrights, patents and private property. You don’t un-become a commie overnight, you need a complete iteration of the population and then some. Hong Kong benefitted greatly from British rule and their orderly governance puts the mainland to shame. The mainland cannot follow suit, they cannot have the wonderful life of a Hong Kong resident until they put aside the communist bullshit and the Maoist/Leninist socialism. I refer you again to the Churchill quote. You cannot bend reality with socialist fiction. The system has never worked where it wasn’t feeding off a productive host. And as Thatcher noted, the bad part about socialism is eventually you run out of OPM.
You know that Hong Kong was never free under British rule right? Britain refused to bestow democracy on Hong Kong. It did okay.
Libertarianism IS the West.
Up until the middle of the twentieth century the West followed a system more closely resembling comic-book perceptions of fascism than universal libertarianism. Conquest, slavery and exploitation were common. That is why it was so successful.
The British were masters at making this look like a virtue:
“The English are well known throughout the world for their lack of political scruples. They are experts at the art of hiding their misdeeds behind a facade of virtue. They have been at it for centuries, and it has become such a part of their nature that they hardly notice it any longer. They carry on with such a pious expression and deadly seriousness that they even convince themselves that they are the exemplars of political virtue. They do not admit their hypocrisy to themselves. It never happens that one Englishman says to another with a wink or a smile “We don’t want to fool ourselves, do we now.” They do not only behave as if they were the model of piety and virtue — they really believe that they are. That is both amusing and dangerous.” – Joseph Goebbels
Yet the British did a way better job than the Americans at colonization. I think this is because instead of British rule of law and Monarchy all they had was capitalism which they dressed up as libertarianism. Take a look at the history of the Philippines and compare that to any of the British projects.What’s lacking in American style capitalism is a sense of nobility. There has been an attempt to create this with ideas like ‘American exceptional-ism’ but it doesn’t seem to have quite worked. It is also starting to unravel as America drifts away from its European foundations and becomes, more and more, a multi-cultural, economic zone and not much more.
The Philippines weren’t so successful but what about post war Germany and Japan? The victory in WW2 only seems to have given the Americans a false impression that American guidance and ideas about liberty can make nations happy and successful. Yet Germany and Japan already had cultures that were remarkably advanced and in some respects superior to America. They would have done even better without American intervention. They succeeded despite the Americans whose main contribution was burning all their cities to the ground -- amazing really. But the Japanese and Germans are more naturally ‘National Socialist”, as the British and the colonists once were, which is why to this day they have very low income disparity. An increasing gap between rich and poor is a sure indicator that a nation is heading away from the Western ideal.
Where’s that book at? i wanna google the author.
Didn’t realize there was a Western ideal that everyone should make exactly the same amount of money. Is that in the Constitution somewhere? At least the democrats act like it SHOULD be.
It’s not.
This is a game the leftists play, there’s something terribly wrong with capitalist society because not everyone is rich.
Well, not everyone is educated.
Not everyone has an equal amount of talent.
And there’s no limit on how hard you want to bust your hump, or stay in bed.
Well, here’s the problem: the rich have stolen your money!!
That’s right, while you were asleep, they came in and took everything that rightfully belonged to you.
We need to kill the rich and drink their blood, then we will become the new rich.
This probably worked better in Russia against the Romanovs, but you get the concept. If you ascribe success to the Theory of Elites (that possibly some people are more talented than others), you have to accept the possibilty that we’re not all going to end up living like George Clooney. And we don’t. So let’s not pretend that we should.
There are 2 ways to approach this: fight over one pie and argue for a larger piece (the union approach);
make more pies.
I like the latter.
We rebuilt Germany and Japan. Unlike the conquerors in all of earlier history, we attempted to stabilize our former enemies in the hopes we would not repeat the same bullshit 30 years later (as we had done after WWI).
The only country that ever repaid its war debts to the US was Belgium. Everyone else skated. I’m not buying the ‘Germany and Japan were superior cultures’ crap. Both countries were run by a warrior class who saw neighbors as lands to conquer and people to subjugate. The US didn’t wake up one day and decide “Hey, let’s burn all of Germany’s and Japans’s cities to the ground!” You left out the part where they tried to kill the rest of mankind. How convenient.
You work for the Smithsonian?
If Japan and Germany wanted to do even better without “American intervention” maybe they shouldn’t have tried to put every other countries’ head on a pike. Just a thought.
The worst thing about Socialism is socialism, the worst thing about captialism is capitalists. Yes, there are scoundrels out there who need to be in prison for life (Wall Street and DC), but Socialism ALWAYS SUCKS. No matter how it’s practiced, it fails.
Then we can rely on the socialists to tell us “Well, it wasn’t the RIGHT kind of socialism.”Exactly -- there isn’t any.
…everyone should make exactly the same amount of money.
Where did I write that? The striking feature about the West was large and prosperous middle working class. Crappy civilizations have a small super rich class and a huge poverty stricken class. Western civilization is not Libertarianism it is rule of law and high levels of trust built on the foundations of Christendom. These things are eroded as the wealth gap widens.
We rebuilt Germany and Japan.
I think they did all the hard work, clearing away the rubble. The Americans continued to demolish perfectly good buildings even after the war ended. General Patton was appalled by this. Luckily the National Socialists, being focused on German heritage, had recorded all the details of the buildings that were destroyed.
I’m not buying the ‘Germany and Japan were superior cultures’ crap.
I wrote, “..in some respects superior..” Germans and Japanese had developed some advanced technologies and refined cultural practices. It wasn’t all just Bushido. Certainly superior to current enemies who line people up and shoot them and no one in the West even cares, compared to going on and on about atrocities in a war that ended over sixty years ago. Although one can admire the Afghan resolve in actively declining to have their culture distorted.
Socialism ALWAYS SUCKS
Unfortunately we have to accept a level of socialism in modern societies. There needs to be some common and private ownership for all for people to develop a high level of trust and a sense of personal responsibility.
If you’re arguing for a smaller and smaller gap in income, aren’t you narrowing the range of possible outcomes? I’m not so concerned about income disparity as I am income mobility. Do you have the potential to make more money, either by changing skill sets or becoming an expert in your field? If not, all the income parity in the world won’t make you happy.
I did not mean we personally rebuilt Japan and Germany, I mean we helped them with material and financial assistance. Once again, there was a perfectly good reason for them to sit admidst the rubble, their leadership had created this situation. We finished it.
When you said superior cultures you never indicated you were comparing them to the Taliban. We should have left Afghanistan last year. Now we have to put up with the latest insanity. We pretend to be Karzai’s friend the way we pretend to be Pakistan’s friend. As they say, who needs enemies at that point?
Personal responsibility and satisfaction comes from owning property and being able to improve on it. The Tragedy of the Commons is pretty well documented. The village cow is the one everyone milks but nobody feeds. Private ownership changes everything, which is why San Diego looks one way and Tijuana looks another, why West Germany made the Mercedes while East Germany made the Trabant. What does socialism have to do with a high level of trust and personal responsibilty?
Heard an an ignorant ghetto black say “I doan knee ta know no histroy cuz I knowz today” Dumb as shit but he had a point. But I dismissed him totally because he was stupid. He has no grievance what so ever the dumb sum bitch had no business even opening his mouth about anything. He had the Constitutional right to be a dum fuc and i wanted him to suffer for his freedom.
I don’t know what economic fair and equitable means any more that the Supreme Court knows what pornography is. No even sure I’ll I’ll know it if I saw it. I’ll trust the constitution, that’s always safe but means i gatta trust the Supreme court. Jefferson said the same shit we say today about them but nobody ever wanted to restrict their tenure.
I support free markets but they have no right to inflate my hard earned dollar in the way they grow and prosper. Seems the more wealth they create the deeper in debt the economy goes and the harder the subsequent crashes. The Socialist is a great scapegoat. For me easy to understand how he gains support but mentioning it here is anathema. Only person here makes real down to earth sense is RT. It’s tribes stupid’ and the squaws run shit when the warriors are drunk crying in their beer. Show me that wonderful patriotic picture of the poor white boy giving the forefathers grief an the smug Socialists looking on. Being able to relate to that white boy makes me hate myself.
It seems to me that neither my position nor Torpedo’s position are really tenable in today’s society. Socialism and political correctness are a toxic mix. Libertarianism will result in a stratification of society into classes based on ability and background. Mercantile morality will not feed people’s souls and many will fall prey to obesity and self-destructive habits. One thing about the Fascists is that they kept people smart and fit -- must have been all that marching. But no one seems willing to dress up for a movement these days.
In another thread you write:
I will attempt another approach. I will live my life the best way I can and work to make the rest of the world a better place.
While this sounds a little like a blonde beauty queen’s pagent statement I think all of us here relate to it. We try to live a noble (code word noble = Aryan) life and get mad when we see people taking advantage of things and doing things we would never do. We wonder, “Why can’t people be more like us?”. I guess for that to be so we would need to erase all their thoughts and memories and replace them with our own histories.
And also:
Let me know when you’re all armed up and ready to blast Muslims on the street.
I was thinking more along the lines of a “movement”. A few people have got together before and started something that ended up big. People would have to be willing to compromise, perhaps discard some cherished theories for the common good. Talking about commons at least in Medieval times peasants had a commons where they could keep stock and grow crops -- G. K. Chesterton had some good things to say about this arrangement. Something similar could be done with abandoned ground in a place like Detroit. I had an idea where a rich Aryanist could buy up a suburb in Detroit and develeop a community based on Aryanist principles -- a sort of re-conquest. Fighting off the drug crazed hordes of degenerates and building a shining, yet fortified and defended, example of nobleness in a wasteland -- everyone welcome! As long as they aspire to nobility.
My favorite Ghibli epic is Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind. Princess (noble!) Nausicaa lives in a valley that is a perfect liitle Aryan settlement. They live simple, localist lives yet also utilize advanced technology. All around them lies the toxic jungle. Two great powers struggle to dominate the planet but the secret is to live in harmony with nature or be destroyed.
Ghibli’s got a boat load of movies where the little girl tackles things much greater than herself and conquers them. I think that’s why my girls loved to watch them (over and over).
I would not recommend creating an Aryan compound near Detroit, there are enough militant blacks and the largest concentration of Muslims in the country living there now. You’d be inviting constant warfare.
Capitalism does not feed my spirit any more than it feeds yours. But capitalism requires moral agents for its continued success. This is why things are going so badly here now. Obama is an amoral agent with the conscience of a crocodile. Crony capitalism exercised for the benefit of a small cadre is not much better than the socialist experience for most people. In both situations you’re kept out of the party but have a feeling you’re really missing something. And you are.
We’re supposed to believe that Chrysler paid back its loans, even though they took money out of their escrow account to pay the loan. Both pools of money belong to the taxpayers, so what actually transpired? Nothing. We’re still on the hook, a major American car company is now in the hands of Fiat and we’re supposed to lean back and cheer?
Sorry kids, as American cities go, Detroit is an aging queen dying of syphilis. Unions and democratic rule have most thoroughly destroyed their infrastructure. I can name 10 cities heading in the same direction.
dw, your quote from the ghetto black reminded me of Cicero’s observation: To know nothing of what happened before you were born is to remain forever a child. Wealth does not create inflation, monetary policy does. When Bernanke runs his printing press late at night, he’s stealing from every man, woman and child in the country, rich or poor. We need a gold standard to prevent scoundrels from inflating their way out of these deficit situations.
And we need it NOW.
Point taken T and I heard Cicero also talked about the traitor that wore our face and acted like us. Heard a sound byte mentioning some poll that Paul is electable but not by the electorial college. Reminded me of the CAPC poll and the media dismissing him. If I didn’t know better I might think no no wants the Constitution upheld. It’s just a banner to rally us dumb fux. I can easily pick one of so many things that prove to me the Republicans are our worst enemy wearing our face and with the Dem legislating their own ability to stay in power with the Dems. Others need not apply.
You’d be inviting constant warfare.
Indian country. Luckily such fear didn’t always dissuade our forebears. Aryanist shouldn’t be confused with White Supremacist and it might be possible to get on with Muslims or even Blacks. Live and let live, all the while holding the belief that dying in defence of the compound or a principle is a great honour. However the compound would be protected with advanced technology and the attitude would be, “bring it on!”
Maybe bull but read the Rothschilds had 500 trillion in holdings. Many wealthy elites in the west. Maybe a fund could be set up and pledges taken. Anyone can contribute and bailout the Western Governments? I don’t think the people that could actually help and still remain wealthy would want to.
AA -- I wouldn’t expect your average Detroit denizen to know the difference between Aryan or Nazi (or white supremacist) -- remember there have been several incidents in the US involving the term niggardly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_about_the_word_%22niggardly%22
It wasn’t a requirement that those offended understood the word’s real meaning, the only thing that mattered was they were offended. The VICTIMS were offended because they were ignorant. Political correctness forgives the offended their ignorance and requires their intellectual superiors to submit to sensitivity training, wherein I would imagine you’re taught all the words you can’t use in the presence of blacks.
I guess that could go on for weeks…
Speaking of lost in translation, I’m so glad things have calmed down in Afghanistan after Obama apologized (or so he said). In other news, two more American service men were killed today over the Koran.
Maybe Obama can write their survivors and say -- “Well, at least things are calming down, right? Sorry about your husband, I gotta catch a 3 o’clock tee time…, later!”
“Well, at least things are calming down, right? Sorry about your husband, I gotta work on my NCAA tournament bracket. Tune in to ESPN to see how mine compares to yours. later!”
Waiting for the Breitbart videos….. :-O
i wish soros and breitbart could change places.
I wonder if Vince Foster had videos?
I think when it’s all over, Billy Ayers isn’t going to just be ‘some guy in the neighborhood’.
Pay no attention to that commie behind the curtain!! The great and powerful Barack has spoken!
Mom was a commie.
Dad was a commie.
Step-dad was a commie.
Gramps and Nana were commies.
Mentor was a commie.
Preacher was a commie.
College collaborators were commies.
You can piece the rest together.
i disagree. when all is said and done, about half of this country agrees with billy ayers. or doesn’t care enough to disagree with him. oh, maybe he shouldn’t have killed that policeman, but that was forty years ago.
i mean really, who’s going to pay attention?
i mean really, who’s going to care?
i mean really, the NFL has already announced it’s moving it’s season opening game due to husein giving his speech at the DNC.
yep, billy is just one of the boys. how did he say it? guilty as sin and free as a bird.
louielouie,
I’m not out to convince Michael Moore of anything, if that’s what you’re implying. The point is Obama has downplayed this relationship from the beginning. He tried that with Rev. Wright until the videos came out, then he threw Rev. under the bus.
I just want to see him throw Billy under the bus as well, the prick has been living large in Tehran on the Chicago for years.
This is still a largely conservative/libertarian population, according to the polls. You’re free to associate with commies. All I’m asking for is a little sunshine.
i remember reading an article back in ’08. billy said he was horrified that hussein had agreed to run. billy had advised against it. billy said hussein needed at least 3 more years of training before hussein would be ready. yes, “training” was the word billy used in the interview. imo, billy may orchestrate the throwing, just to save his friend for the greater good. farra-khan is already playing the assassination card.
An AngloAmerikan brief Film Review:
Joy Division
A remarkable British movie set during WW2 and the sixties cold war era. The British director chose young German actors to play the roles of teenagers facing the Soviet onslaught during the closing weeks of the war. The movie is remarkable in several respects. It shows the rarely seen side of the war, the great sufferring of the German people as the Soviets advanced toward Berlin. There is none of the usual mandatory anti-German cliches. It is a grim story of rape and carnage incredibly well done on a budget of a mere six million dollars. There is a fairly heroicly portrayed character who is a British Free Corps member fighting on the side of the Germans against the Soviets. He wields an StG 44 assault rifle -- very cool. The main character armed with a Panzarfaust rocket launcher and the British renegade take out an advancing T34 tank at one point. Lots of T34 tank action although,sadly, no Tiger tanks to be seen. Refugee columns are strafed by Allied fighters. The Soviets are depicted as a mixed lot of Russians, Asiatics and in-betweeners. Soviet weapons look authentic.
Never before in a movie have I heard a narrator state, “A town we had recaptured. Genuine life interest. An outpost of hope amidst the carnage…” Then a shot showing Nazi troops feeding the refugees. I can’t help thinking the British director is quite unusually sympathetic.
The plot jumps between the forties and sixties frequently. British secret service are shown indulging in a bit of torture although nothing too terrible. If you cannot get the full film below is a condensed ten minute version on YouTube. The shot of the attractive naked women being tortured in the shower is a Soviet agent undergoing, um, “the process of conditioning”. All in all an excellent movie, 9/10 considering the budget. Why can’t there be more movies based on real events instead of making up stupid stuff? Essential viewing for every War movie buff.
When all is said and done, we in the US and those in England had far more in common with the Germans than we ever did the Russians. The fact they started the war in Hitler’s pocket tells you all you need to know about their loyalties.
This made going to war with Germany all the harder, but comrade Roosevelt insisted on it. With each war we have become a little less free and we are slowly turning into the people our grandfathers and fathers fought against.
And it doesn’t help to have a Marxist in the White House.