Zero Hedge – We don’t know if it merely a coincidence that a story has emerged discussing a Chinese mobilization in response to the ongoing territorial feud with Japan over the Diaoyu/Senkaku islands (and the proximal massive gas field) the very week that China celebrates its new year (and days after news that a Chinese warship was very close to firing on a Japanese destroyer). We don’t know how much of the story is based in reality, and how much may be propaganda or furthering someone’s agenda. What we do know is that the source of the story: offshore-based, Falun Gong-affiliated NTDTV has historically been a credible source of information that the China communist party desperately tries to censor, such as breaking the news of the SARS epidemic in 2003 some three weeks before China publicly admitted it. Its motto is “to bring truthful and uncensored information into and out of China.” If that is indeed the case, and its story of major troop movements and mobilization of various types of military vehicles and artillery into the Fujian and Zhejian provinces, bordering the East China Sea and closest to the Diaoyu islands, is accurate, then hostilities between China and Japan may be about to take a major turn for the worse.
Fujian and Zhejian provinces highlighted below:


US moves stealth fighters to Okinawa base
Kadena Air Base
Where’s Mao when you need him? I suppose when they need to feed the ‘Gear-up’, they’ll sell off a few bushels of wheat from the elevators they’ve just finished building up here.
Don’t get it. We have to slowly borrow away our own sovereignty to finance protecting of the sovereignty of other nations? That kinna plays right into the hands of the progressive doesn’t it?
They are just fucking with us as usual watching us scurry around like alarmed rats wasting money figuring out how we respond to their shit.
Consider also, with the Chinese looking at 4 more years of American paralysis, that this might be the best time to bring Taiwan back in the fold. A couple hundred ballistic missiles (DF-21Cs and Ds), an amphibious landing, all before Barack can finish the back 9. A fait accompli for the ages.
They have been gearing up for Taiwan a lot longer than they’ve been gearing up for Japan, but bringing the petulant Nationalists back into the fold will give the Chinese a springboard for their southern expansion.
I’d doubt Stymie would lift a finger to oppose them. I could see Hagel sending them an atta boy email afterwards. Fucking morons.
Yeah …… I dont think those Tanks and artillery pieces are for an uninhabited Rock.
I guess their real problem (in taking Taiwan) is going to be getting there.
Its gonna be a little harder to traverse the Strait than it was to sneak down the Ho Chi Minh trail or wade across the Yalu. Especially reinforcements.
……. unless a trillion dollars and 240 ICBMs buys you a free pass.
….. what is the protocol Mike for lighting up an adversary’s ship with targeting radar during peacetime?
…. I would assume thats S.O.P.
….. of course that does give them an opportunity to study data on your beam …. for future jamming.
Illumination is a hostile act and considered provocation. It would bring about an instant frenzy aboard ship on both sides. We would not do it for kicks. Once when we were on plane watch escorting a carrier we by mistake swept the flight deck with our 51c radar and all the planes on deck shit their chaff. They were pissed with all the clean up they had to do.
The question is will we even be there. If sequestration happens we will be a shadow of our former selves. Ships currenty being overhauled will be our only force. In six months their replacements won’t be sea worthy and it won’t be long until they aren’t seaworthy again. They have alredy canceled the yard maintenance for several LHA’s, LHD’s, LSD’s, CG’s and DDG’s. Unlike the old days, ships personnel can do very few repairs to modern warships. The shipyards will loose ¾ of their workforce and it will be worse for subcontractors. We will be truly screwed and unable to defend our assets.
You picked a fine time to leave me Lucille
Oh, I forgot they have also canceled all F-18 maintenance at the overhaul facility here. So the carriers have no reason to go to sea.
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I wonder if the Chinese are too new at this game to know that …… or if they were trying to provoke a response?
Dangerous Neighborhood
Cue Barry McGuire
North Korea conducted it’s third nuclear test today defying UN resolutions, angering the United States and Japan and prompting it’s only major Allie China to call for calm. The US president labeled the act a highly provocative and threatens regional stability and asked for new sanctions against the isolated country.
North Korea conducted it’s fouth nuclear test today …
North Korea conducted it’s fifth nuclear test today …
North Korea conducted it’s sixth nuclear test today …
North Korea conducted it’s seventh nuclear test today …
North Korea conducted it’s eighth nuclear test today defying UN resolutions major Allie China to call for calm. The US president labeled the act a highly provocative and threatens regional stability and asked for new sanctions against the isolated country.
North Korea is now a member of Nations and the normalization of regional instability paves the way for progressive dialog.
Mike can you say what you think about the threat level of the Chinese. Would they dare purposely start the kind of conflict that would escalate? Are they dangerously stupid, just fucking around or inexperienced like RT mentioned? Truth is I fear them.
Straight up we kick their ass, but in their backyard if we had insufficient assets for the battlespace they could overwhelm us. I think any conflict will be sea based or shelling of the disputed islands. I don’t believe we would respond to these territorial disputes and I don’t believe the Japanese would start a shooting war with them. If they attack Japan or the Philippines we will probably be drawn in, and it would be a particularly nasty war ending with nukes in my opinion.
I don’t think the Chinese are crazy enough to kick off a shooting war over mineral rights a couple hundred miles off-shore (just yet), but Taiwan is perfectly within their reach and they’ll be counting on their anti-carrier ballistic missiles to keep the US at a safe distance until the damage is done.
And since the present CinC is a eunuch, if the attack is fast and overwhelming, he probably won’t look up from his fund-raiser.
Oh, and I loved the tribute to Ambassador Stevens last night, it was touching.
lets get it done the snake oil salesman says. time to shut down harvard and colombia. hey btw i noticed something look at this list of last names ending in -er.
jared lochner
chris dorner
ed asner
chuck schuymer
william shatner
anyway these people seem very dangerous and its time to lock them up for the kids sake.
There doesn’t appear to be many pro-reunification sympathisers in Taiwan. So if you can rule out massive sabotage to Taiwan’s defensive capabilities, I’m not so sure taking Taiwan back by force would be as easy as some think.
81 miles of open ocean would be a killing field for Taiwanese Air and (indigenously produced) mobile land based missile defense systems, if left intact before a PRC amphibious assault attempt. It would probably take a prolonged missile war before the PRC could establish air-superiority over Taiwan, or risk putting what few troop carrying ships they have in the straits.
We probably would find some excuse to not honor the Taiwan Relations Act. Especially if the PRC could fabricate a plausible justification.
I think our navy too would be a setting duck in the South China sea, and our island bases in the region defenseless. Not because we dont have more advanced defense systems, but simply because we have a finite number of projectiles to counter the massive waves they could send our way.
I think the US airpower would be the vanguard of our response ….. after of course we poke their eyes out in space. They of course will return the favor….. if they dont take out our birds first. If I were them that would be my first shot.
….. and if you got the balls to attack US ships and bases …… you’re way past the fear of our nuclear reprisal. You’ve already calculated those potential losses. Just like we’d have to assume our direct involvement would put US bases ….. and cities …. at risk.
Is preserving the democratic system in Taiwan worth it?
I’ve been conditioned all my life to take the (anti-communist) Taiwanese side. But would the Taiwanese people piss on me if I was on fire? There kinda like Israel ….. a supposed ally that we wont allow to help us when we need it because of the political ramifications involved. And like our other democratic allies in the region we wont let them develop their own nuclear deterrence, but we probably wouldn’t risk US cities to defend them even if they were nuked.
I wonder if our allies in the region that want us to help protect their possessions from Chinese aggression would be willing to help us confront China over Taiwan? ANZAC? Or are we the only ones willing to intervene in the final act of the Chinese civil war?
What kind of ally are we to Taiwan if we won’t even consider having our president visit there? Eisenhower was the last one that didn’t care if the commies got offended.
Why should I care if China takes back Taiwan? How would the forced reunification affect me?
Computer hardware would be in short supply until other Asian countries could ramp up production.
But really, it would be kinda interesting to watch China attempt to pacify 23 million people brainwashed from birth to resist them. How would they go about doing that without a defensible land bridge for resupply? Every Taiwanese adult is a trained veteran due to universal conscription.
I’m not so sure they can occupy Taiwan.
It would bleed the Chinese economy and military.
The video images would clarify their capacity for brutality to the rest of the world. A pariah in the international community. A potential diplomatic, and perhaps economic, windfall for us.
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Can’t believe we made this shit happen.
Communism used to kill academics and Journalists. We got the fucked up kind of Communism
that kicks our ass with them.
…tictictic…Obama is Pekings best friend,they are in no hurry…
…and now NK most diffidently has a nuke capabillity…SK is a bargaining chip….
sooo…. this for that…..
So what if the sequester cuts our carrier force effectively in half? Six or 7 carriers is spreading the peanut butter far too thinly. We don’t keep up the maintenance on the F-16s, the USS Lincoln doesn’t get refueled on time, the marines and army get their numbers whacked, we’re still strung out in Iraq and Crackassistan. This is a blank check for shenanigans.
No country has ever been attacked because their enemies perceived them to be too strong.
The ill-advised words of one of Bush’s minions in the ME opened the door to Saddam’s invasion of Kuwait.
Allowing nuclear proliferation to continue unabated in rouge states increases the chances of cataclysm down the road. Stymie’s asleep at the switch. Has he brought the guys who killed Ambassador Stevens to justice? Has he thought about that once since he uttered these words? I’d highly doubt it. He’s got global warming and universal day care and gay marriage to husband, he doesn’t have time for messy issues (economy, national defense) that don’t resolve themselves so he can later take the credit.
He may be a sociopathic asshole prick, but he’s also a lout. Captain Inaction will get us all killed.
My advise to you. If we get a black Pope named Peter, start shitting your drawers.
Luckily, Benedict made sure the deck is stacked against him.
Nice, you’re up on this arcane shit as well.
But we know not the hour nor the time, do we? That’s the only Biblical reassurance I have right now.
The bridegroom comes in the middle of the night. Make sure your lamps have oil.
And lay in a couple thousand rounds of .308
Any God scaring me, talking to me in riddles and cryptic crap he knows I cannot understand without drugs or irrational fear I have to challenge. He was plain enough about don’t touch fire or don’t play with alligators but eternal welfare is some leap of faith for an unbelievably tiny flock that everyone claims to be apart of? The apostles really appreciated it when he talked plainly to them in person! If you don’t have the Holy Spirit you don’t understand shit. That’s simple enough and explains nothing to us vessels made to be broken as example to the chosen. Glad I could help.
I had not heard of the Saint Malarkey’s predictions until yesterday, I had to research it to figure out what you were referencing.
I dont believe any of this shit …… but given the current state of affairs I will be as relieved as anyone when we get to the 113th (267th) Pope.
Being a faithful adherent is not a prerequisite for fearing the apocalypse.
Russian nuclear bombers circle Guam
AN FYI to all you conspiracy whackos. In the past 6 weeks, I’ve made more than a few trips North, towards Malmstrom AFB, homeplate for our guys watching the buried missiles. On the first trip, I caught up and passed a convoy of armored outfits, guns in the tubs and black tinted windowed Suburbans with Federal Police labels on the sides. Oh yes -- I almost forgot -- the black helicopter I spotted as I came out of the canyon before I ever got to the convoy. The chopper had me curious -- a Blackhawk. This past Wednesday made the 4th time I’ve seen this fiasco -- in less than two months. That, and Border Patrol SUVS more than a hundred and fifty miles from the border.
I’ve seen the armored outfits before -- many times, usually traveling with camo Hummers. Never seen ‘em with 60′s in the tubs. Never seen ‘em with FP escorts, stopping traffic at the on-ramps.
Just sayin’…
It’s okay if you don’t believe, that’s what makes you (hmmm?) non-believers. The prophesies of St. Malachy (Irish) aren’t the word of God, they were from a vision he had on a pilgrimage to Rome.
Michael Nostradamus wasn’t God either, but many think he was on the money about a lot of things. His end-of-the-world scenarios don’t dovetail with Malachy’s, so maybe Malachy wasn’t predicting the end of the world, perhaps just the end of the Roman Catholic Church.
Feel sorry for all the atheists and anti-Catholic bigots at that point, but I’m sure they’ll find another target. You might have to cancel Real Time with Bill Maher, but other than that, I’m not too sure we’ll need to change much.
A Chinese warship recently increased tensions between Beijing and Tokyo by using targeting radar against a Japanese warship.I don’t understand the language of vague hostile and intimidating acts or the humor in them but I do understand clearly stated intention followed by a hostile act. The humor will start a war. I understand you have to at least show up on the battlefield in force to negotiate a good settlement but why the hell do we have to mobilize and threaten with every frikkin thing while these fux just send a plane or ship or applaud NK.
I fear the influence of religion and prophecy on people in a Democracy. If we were really a Republic I wouldn’t worry. I don’t mind the morality of Christianity, that might offend but not hurt anyone. Probably the opposite would happen. We are all progressives and things just want to progress. The Constitution is the rules of the road. Changing the road signs is the name of the game for progressives and my reads say Christianity is the unsung progressive hero on secular issues that don’t directly involve morality. And now they’re bitten in the ass for it and still don’t see the light.
The Ruskies reverted to prophecy when their shit didn’t fly. The capitalist will lose the final battle and be hung with his own rope. Islam has some interesting prophecy, so does my mother. We’re all prophets and progressives. Sure glad we ratified common sense while we had it.